EncFS creates a virtual encrypted filesystem which stores encrypted data in the rootdir directory and makes the unencrypted data visible at the mountPoint directory. From a neutral point of view, you should consider that per-file encryption of eCryptfs may slow down low-performance hardware but allows a great level of flexibility, making the encryption process optional for your users and reversible without formatting if you need to change the MBT layout. Depending on your configuration there may be similar in nature security holes. Personally, while I like the simplicity of EncFS, I recommend eCryptFS. La differenza principale tra eCryptfs e EncFS è che eCryptfs è un file system nel kernel e utilizza il keyring in-kernel e gli algoritmi di crittografia nel kernel, e EncFS è il filesystem dello spazio utente che usa FUSE. I've used EncFS for a while now to encrypt sensitive files. Admittedly, I am using Mint Cinnamon in stead of Arch, but we're all friends here, right? Awe, you know what. mount) only when necessary. You should not use eCryptfs. Development of EncFS seems to be stalled, too. But the next day (aka after reboot) you have to add the key to the kernel ring all over again, making this unconvenient. Personally, while I like the simplicity of EncFS, I recommend eCryptFS. I thought, if so many distro's use it as a default, there's gotta be something to it.I want to use a long passphrase, that's why I need it in my keychain permanently. It's basically the successor to encfs and fixes (or avoids) almost all of encfs issues. I basically just want to be able to use eCryptfs the same way I can use EncFS. – Dustin Kirkland 19 gen. 12 2012-01-19 02:03:13 You should not use eCryptfs. EncFS's security is still questionable. I was thinking of rsyncing inotified ecryptfs changes to the remote as live backup. Is that what you're referring to? It also works well together with other cloud providers. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. I haven't found a convenient way yet to let a user mount an arbitrary directory at an arbitrary location (arbitrary in the sense that the user has the required permissions). EncFS. Difficult syncing, partial transfer problems, no taking subsections of a gigabyte project with you. Add Video or Image. Use LUKS/dm-crypt instead and provides the same benefits you are looking for in eCryptfs. Until yesterday everything has always gone fine. One of the two you listed (I think encfs) splits your files into many smaller files which really has an impact on I/P performance. It is not a clever step it is what sudo is for. EncFS has no "volumes" that occupy a fixed size — encrypted directories grow and shrink as more files are added to or removed from the mountpoint New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the linuxquestions community, Press J to jump to the feed. Hence the long passphrase. You could only decrypt the file to like a ramdisk or tempfs to solve that problem. This way you only have to remember the passphrase because all the other metadata is stored in the configuration file. Re: Ecryptfs vs encfs. Encrypting directories with ENCFS: I added EncFS as a bonus, EncFS is just another method shown in this tutorial but it isn’t the best as it is warned by the tool itself during the installation process due security concerns, it has a different way to use. All. FYI, this script enables mounting ecryptfs folders without root access or touching the fstab: I may have misunderstood how that script works, but I believe that ecryptfs-simple does the same thing more efficiently. EncFS provides an encrypted filesystem in user-space. Wondering about performance and ease of use. Run the following command to create a new EncFS encrypted volume: This creates two directories. Don't take my word for it. When FUSE became available, I wrote a CFS replacement f… Run the following command to install EncFS on Ubuntu: On other distributions of Linux, look for the EncFS package in your package manager and install it. 2. Incidentally, I have opened a bug report to get ecryptfs and fuse.encfs added to the default PRUNEFS array in updatedb.conf: https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/30068. This thread was really only about getting eCryptfs to behave more like EncFS, but I'll give some more background. I was looking for a way to make a simple arbitrary ecryptfs less rocketsciency and google redirected me to this topic. Last edited by hunterthomson (2013-01-20 07:07:35). When comparing EncFS vs Cryptomator, the Slant community recommends Cryptomator for most people. EncFS is available on multiple platforms, whereas eCryptfs is tied to the Linux kernel Bitrot support. Last edited by Redsandro (2013-01-19 13:56:14). mlocate as a security-hole in non-full-disk-encryption is mentioned in the Wiki: Here. That would make backup to my NAS go faster, I suppose. EncFS needs config files in place). As for the remote storage, I have a server running ownCloud but everyone agrees their remote encryption is very insecure. Anyway, I think Xyne is right to want to try to automate using EcryptFS. Hi all. EncFS is now over 15 years old (first release in 2003). http://stackexchange.com/search?q=ecryptfs Certainly, it's easy (and even desirable) to combine the two. My Arch Linux Stuff • Forum Etiquette • Community Ethos - Arch is not for everyone. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPEKX3WE-VI, Last edited by hunterthomson (2013-01-20 06:20:21). NOTE: Windows 7 users should use a drive (like "X:") as plain_dir to avoid case sensitive problems which results in file/folder … zuluCrypt can manage encrypted volumes that are hosted in image files, lvm, mdraid, hard drives, usb sticks or any other block device. eCryptfs fornisce un vero file system di crittografia del disco Linux impilato. Even when it is, IO is not intensive so the performance hit from using FUSE has not been an issue. eCryptfs vs EncFS for subdirectories of $HOME. Perhaps you could help me to improve ecryptfs-simple if you feel that something is lacking instead of working on a separate script. Disk encryption only provides physical security. The files can therefore be decrypted as long as they exist, whereas EncFS files depend on an extra file that could be lost (unlikely with proper backups, but still possible). Ecryptfs isn't much better, according to some blogs the head developer left Canonical/Ubuntu and they have major problems adapting it to the latest Ubuntu releases, hence they dropped it in favour of LUKS/LVM in 19.04. Everything but /boot encrypted and using a device mapper to mount them. It runs in userspace,using the FUSE library for the filesystem interface. EncFS è un software molto semplice e intuitivo per la crittografia del disco Linux. You can create a precomputed hash lookup table for cryptoloop. Last edited by Redsandro (2013-01-18 20:50:01). Additionally, if I've understood it correctly, the metadata is stored in the files themselves instead of EncFS's per-directory configuration file (.encfs6.xml). It has been implemented as a stackable file system and provides filesystem-level encryption. Store my project files encrypted remotely on untrusted sources such as dropbox, ubuntu one, google drive. La crittografia di eCryptfs è impilata su un filesystem esistente e si monta su qualsiasi singola directory esistente e non necessita di una partizione separata. The head developer of encfs pretty much abandoned the project. I want to use a long passphrase, that's why I need it in my keychain permanently. I used an old Lucid (10.04) install to mount my encrypted folder (was using 12.04 on my PC and it was the only available Linux install around) It is a pass-through filesystem, not an encrypted block device, which means it is created on top of an existing filesystem. A attacker may be able to gather the names of the files themselves in a situation like that and even that may not be acceptable to you. @3pic of course, he is one of the authors and maintainers of eCryptfs. Again, I don't know whether it's possible to conceal mount points from mtab, but I wonder whether it would be sufficient to combine ecryptfs with Luks? Last edited by Xyne (2012-05-28 19:46:41), I ended up writing a utility to do what I want:ecryptfs-simple project pageforum thread. (C code using the ecryptfs library vs a lot of Bash subshells and shuffling). -edit-I guess in theory I want to store the key in my user keyring, and copy it to the kernel keyring when I log in. I did a talk about encrypted filesystems a month ago at the Chemnitzer Linux-Tage and looked deep into the details of encfs, gocrypts, cryfs and ecryptfs. I created a 1.2GB file to get an idea of how long it would > take to write/read using ecryptfs vs non-ecryptfs on an ext3 file > system. The keychain is safely locked away in my encrypted home, which can be physically trusted anyway. You boot and right after grub you enter your password in the console then it unlocks everything else and finishes booting. Cosa sia meglio, non saprei... bye, -- … [ To the main EncFS source changes report] Cryptomator is ranked 1st while EncFS is ranked 2nd That's handy info. Ecryptfs is tied very close to Ubuntu and currently getting phased out by them. Well first of all. Furthermore, eCryptfs is not designed for cloud storage. EncFS is open sourcesoftware, licensed under the LGPL. Maybe there's even a simpler way than PAM. CryFS encrypts your Dropbox and protects you against hackers and data leaks. Yes you can do this with LUKS/dm-crypt. CryFS does this, but CryFS wasn't developed with OP's use case in mind. What can not be trusted is remote locations and portable storage. A stolen keyring is (at least temporarily) useless. Why is eCryptfs not secure? It has highest performance and security. I agree that block encryption is the better option for full security, but stacked systems have the advantage of dynamic space allocation and easy backups (e.g. As I understand it, you just want to automate mounting of the encrypted directory locally without the passphrase prompt. I find it very convenient to have a stacked filesystem that can grow as needed (as opposed to pre-allocated block encryption). The gocryptfs documentation has an overview of some virtual encrypted file systems: https://nuetzlich.net/gocryptfs/comparison/. After running: And then saving a file from Geany into /home/user/secret-dir . It was written becauseolder NFS and kernel-based encrypted filesystems such as CFS had not kept pace with Linuxdevelopment. In that case, you can either use an encrypted stacked file system or an encrypted block device. It is not secure. 2. Although eCryptfs is geared toward securing data in enterprise environments, we explored how eCryptfs can be flexible for use in a wide variety of circumstances. From: Dan Prev by Date: Re: wmv locks entire system ever since upgrade to 6.0.1; Next by Date: Re: libxaw7-dev busted, not sure why; Previous by thread: Ecryptfs vs encfs I am generally used to encrypting entire block devices with Luks/cryptsetup, which is what I did to my boot drive. The most popular Windows alternative is TrueCrypt, which is both free and Open Source.If that doesn't suit you, our users have ranked 37 alternatives to eCryptfs and many of them are available for Windows so hopefully you can find a suitable replacement. Ecryptfs and dm-crypt have both been part of the mainline kernel since 2.6, and ecryptfs is the default for *Buntu.Having a container on remote storage is a bad idea and not as versatile. I have not tried it myself, but it is possible thinly provisioned LVM LVs containing LUKS partitions would also be a solution to your problem. It is not secure. Cryfs is also very modern but with a different approach suited for usage in cloudstorage. LUKS, full-disk encryption, is a better solution when no data at all is acceptable to leak outside of encrypted areas. I second this. Anything that stores filenames (e.g. You could limit the disk usage of individual users with quotas. However, with LUKS/dm-crypt you can make a file, mount it with -o loop and encrypt it. That protects data when the system is down, but when it's up it provides no protection whatsoever. But it comes with a penalty in speed, cryfs can become very slow for certain use cases. I already have full system encryption on the target system (with /tmp as tmpfs and encrypted swap with a throwaway key). "Fossies" - the Fresh Open Source Software Archive Source code changes of the file "README.md" betweenencfs-1.9.4.tar.gz and encfs-1.9.5.tar.gz About: EncFS is an encrypted virtual filesystem for Linux using the FUSE kernel module. I want to be able to use LVM to resize individual home partitions for a multi-user setup. Like EncFS, it doesn't encrypt file sizes or directory structure and therefore has the same problems as described above. In that case, I understand your point. EncFS is pretty much dead, the head developer abandoned the project after almost 15 years of development. Nevertheless, I like the idea of using eCryptfs as it is supposedly faster and seemingly enjoys more widespread support. My Recommendation for ecryptfs. 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